She's absolutely right about history and victimization! We are not descendants of peoples who didn't play the conquest game, and just because your ancestors lost the conquest game doesn't make you virtuous.
Good discussion on equating victimhood with goodness, definitely a nuance that needs to be explored and talked about more. Right & Left both throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater all the time.
Questions: trump 2.0: What about the good brown people being deported and put in camps? And what about trump's plans for Palestine? Not to mention Greenland... Canada.....
I feel the push to return to 50s gender roles is fairly insidious and includes a real push for christian nationalism.
And basically, the vast majority of people I see wearing flags or displaying them on their trucks are in fact, right wing extremists.
So many problems with the left, but the way I like to put it is that a vote for Harris didn't represent a love letter to the Democrats, it represented a strategy to keep us moving forward, not backwards.
now we have unelected billionaires in the seat of power, directing traffic from the White House.
I'll just drop us here, a very left lens on our current reality, please don't think I'm saying the left is gloriously right about everything, but I think the right is far more dangerous, and the left deserves a lot of credit for a lot of things:, and this would be a a great summary of why:
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"A day in the Life of Sue Republican.
Sue gets up at 6 a.m. and fills her coffeepot with water to prepare her morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards.
With her first swallow of coffee, she takes her daily medication. Her medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised.
All but $10 of her medications are paid for by her employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Sue gets it too.
She prepares her morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Sue's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.
In the shower, Sue reaches for her shampoo. Her bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for her right to know what she was putting on her body and how much it contained.
Sue dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air she breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air.
She walks to the subway station for her government-subsidized ride to work. It saves her considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Sue begins her work day. She has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Sue's employer pays these standards because Sue's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.
If Sue is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, she'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think she should lose her home because of her temporary misfortune.
It's noon and Sue needs to make a bank deposit so she can pay some bills. Sue's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Sue's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Sue has to pay her Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and her below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Sue and the government would be better off if she was educated and earned more money over her lifetime.
Sue is home from work. She plans to visit her father this evening at his farm home in the country. She gets in her car for the drive. Her car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards.
She arrives at her childhood home. Her generation was the third to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.
She is happy to see her father, who is now retired. Her father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Sue wouldn't have to.
Sue gets back in her car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Sue enjoys throughout her day. Sue agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm self-made and believe everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."
so I think your critiques of Harris are interesting and good, meaning worthy of further deep dive, but I also think you failed to acknowledge that all of ll of the things represented in the post above in a day in the life of Sue Republican, are things Harris absolutely stood for, even with all her flaws and things worthy of critique, and she would have needed to be pushed on, she stood for all the things helping Sue in her day-to-day life.
Nourish your soul.
She's absolutely right about history and victimization! We are not descendants of peoples who didn't play the conquest game, and just because your ancestors lost the conquest game doesn't make you virtuous.
Good discussion on equating victimhood with goodness, definitely a nuance that needs to be explored and talked about more. Right & Left both throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater all the time.
Questions: trump 2.0: What about the good brown people being deported and put in camps? And what about trump's plans for Palestine? Not to mention Greenland... Canada.....
I feel the push to return to 50s gender roles is fairly insidious and includes a real push for christian nationalism.
And basically, the vast majority of people I see wearing flags or displaying them on their trucks are in fact, right wing extremists.
So many problems with the left, but the way I like to put it is that a vote for Harris didn't represent a love letter to the Democrats, it represented a strategy to keep us moving forward, not backwards.
now we have unelected billionaires in the seat of power, directing traffic from the White House.
I'll just drop us here, a very left lens on our current reality, please don't think I'm saying the left is gloriously right about everything, but I think the right is far more dangerous, and the left deserves a lot of credit for a lot of things:, and this would be a a great summary of why:
Copied:
"A day in the Life of Sue Republican.
Sue gets up at 6 a.m. and fills her coffeepot with water to prepare her morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards.
With her first swallow of coffee, she takes her daily medication. Her medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised.
All but $10 of her medications are paid for by her employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Sue gets it too.
She prepares her morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Sue's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.
In the shower, Sue reaches for her shampoo. Her bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for her right to know what she was putting on her body and how much it contained.
Sue dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air she breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air.
She walks to the subway station for her government-subsidized ride to work. It saves her considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Sue begins her work day. She has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Sue's employer pays these standards because Sue's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.
If Sue is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, she'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think she should lose her home because of her temporary misfortune.
It's noon and Sue needs to make a bank deposit so she can pay some bills. Sue's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Sue's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Sue has to pay her Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and her below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Sue and the government would be better off if she was educated and earned more money over her lifetime.
Sue is home from work. She plans to visit her father this evening at his farm home in the country. She gets in her car for the drive. Her car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards.
She arrives at her childhood home. Her generation was the third to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.
She is happy to see her father, who is now retired. Her father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Sue wouldn't have to.
Sue gets back in her car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Sue enjoys throughout her day. Sue agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm self-made and believe everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."
so I think your critiques of Harris are interesting and good, meaning worthy of further deep dive, but I also think you failed to acknowledge that all of ll of the things represented in the post above in a day in the life of Sue Republican, are things Harris absolutely stood for, even with all her flaws and things worthy of critique, and she would have needed to be pushed on, she stood for all the things helping Sue in her day-to-day life.
Really good interview. High quality discussion. Well done.